In this episode I’m joined by Leanne, who shares a positive induction story from England. This is Leanne’s third birth.
This is a really interesting story, which to Leanne is positive, partly because she felt like a badass as she say.
But we also discuss important topics such as writing a complaint when you don’t feel you’re treated with respect. And how hypnotherapy can help you process a birth.
As always there’s lots to learn from this story, including asking all the question, and tips for birth partners.
So get as comfy you can and enjoy.
Here are some additional links you may find helpful:
Leanne’s Hypnobirthing page: https://www.facebook.com/BabyGemsBirthAndBaby/
Information about baby’s movements: https://www.kickscount.org.uk/your-babys-movements
The Positive Induction Course: https://positiveinduction.com/course/
Book an initial hypnotherapy consultation with Jade: https://www.sonamum.com/hypnotherapy/
Transcript [Please note this is automatically created and may contain some errors]
And this episode, I’m joined by Leanne who shares a positive induction story from England. This is Leanne’s third breath. And it’s an induction. This is a really interesting story, which to Leanne is positive, partly because she felt like a badass as she says, but we also discuss important topics such as writing a complaint when you don’t feel you’ve been treated with respect and how hypnotherapy can help you process breath.
As always, there’s lots to learn from this story, including asking all the questions and some great tips for breath partners. So guess comfy as you can and enjoy You’re listening to the positive induction podcast, a podcast for those who have chosen to have an induction of labor or for those entrusted and how they can make induction a more positive experience. I’m your host,
Jake Gordon clinical hypnotherapist hypnobirthing teacher, and positive induction coach. As always. I want to remind you positive birth means different things to different people. For example, it may be feeling in control being respected and unformed, or feeling like a badass as Leanne says, it does not mean perfect. My aim here is to bring you tips, inspiration and real life experiences as we have today.
So let’s get started so highly on. Thank you for joining me. And we have another induction breast story to share. I really excited to hear all about your birth story and some of the lessons you learned from it as well over, over time, because it was what, 2018. Wasn’t it? Yeah. So I’m trying to do a mask is that four years ago?
Yeah. So I, what was your original plan? We originally planned to be in just, No, I say my original plan was I hospital water bath, and that was not plan. And then plan bay was just a hospital birth and then plan C was kind of, that was kind of like open to scenarios, any special circumstances where my plan say Bosley,
my plan, I was hospital water birth. Something obviously changed to bring her in that topic of induction. What was it that happened? Can you say my original estimated due date was the 19th of March, 2018. I went into hospital may 20th of March and with reduced movement. And so it’s always thought I went into hospital because I was over my estimated due date. And also just to check that everything was that a car.
So I went in and the hospital near that because I was full to eight or could have the opportunity to be induced. I explained how they do the induction via the pest survey and explained that it could take many take hours, could take days. So yeah, it was pretty straightforward, but in the way they explained it and they did go into detail with the benefits and the risks and things,
because I just asked all the questions under the sun. If I was going to say, did you ask those questions? Cause it sounds like they give you a good balanced view to ask for them. Yeah, I did have to ask because they were just saying, you know, you could be induced because we do these movements after 40 weeks. That’s what our policy and procedure is.
Then I asked him what the benefits were, what the risks were. And that’s when they explained about the top of induction, they were advising me to have about the pessimistic dying that they might have to put under the<inaudible> just in case the first one did it progressed. So I decided to, I suppose, more bath aren’t next. He was with me,
we went in on the afternoon and he said, Jen, whatever, Albany relay and having two of the children who were in school on that. But yeah, it was pretty much straight forward. And then two o’clock that afternoon. He was a changed afternoon. I had to pass away at two o’clock on the assessments and assessment was still being monitored, wanting to monitor me.
I think it was only four hours at first. I thought to be honest, I was just chillin. So it was a pretty quick decision you had to like, it was like, let’s do this. Okay. It’s today. So that’s not much time to get your main training names. No, I went in at 12 o’clock and bolted the clock.
So did that feel quite quick for you? Did you feel like that was enough time? Because we had spoken about like, what if I needed to be in jail? What if I needed Really quickly? We just pay for everything. So to be in juice and after we’d spoken to midwife, it was a done deal to be honest. And it’s hard to burst before hadn’t you,
neither of them were induced. So how does it feel strange to be in just this time? It did. I think because we’d must, wasn’t really prepared. Asshole. Hadn’t really read up on everything. I went in totally unprepared. We must second the Juanita home bath. And then I was transferred in modules to be transferred here. And then with my third,
it just seemed because we’d done so much prep because even though it was my third, it was more partners. Yeah. I think that’s probably all we did so much. And also we totally practice birth there, but we touched upon it and log, we knew all the positives of birth education and doing your research. And I think that’s why I asked so many questions,
but they did offer me an induction. So definitely say like asking questions is such a massive thing. And was that quite well received when you were asking questions? Yeah, I think she called him once I asked one question and then I asked another, she kind of thought, okay, I think she can’t do it. And they said that they see it,
the why it was good. Yeah. Which is the way language. That should be fine. Like we can of course ask those questions. Are they, It hasn’t yes, but this time it was okay. See ISO three the, the afternoon and the night and the partner, because I was on the assessment world, he went home Nothing much happening in the night.
I was able to rest and get some safe part from when they put the monitors on. And I was all like, you’re not monitoring my while I’m asleep because it could have progressed for the early hours the next day. And I was play on mocha. So, so I didn’t let him monitor me. I’m asking in person because like we, we have those rights to decline things.
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And that’s what may not, that’s why I think it’s so important to do your research as well. And to know what you’re going, because it is easy to fall into that where you do as you’re told. Yeah. Yeah. Rather than listening to yourself and what you want. It’s easy to kind of, because they are the professionals.
Oh, okay. Yes. Okay. Yeah. You can do that. Yeah. That’s fine. So you’re in a ward with other people. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then there was me and three of the pregnant people on the assessment will Wednesday morning at four o’clock in the morning. I thought, yeah, something’s happening. And then they came a lot.
The midwives of say may about six classes. I was kind of feeling, not quite sure. And she was all good. Do you want some Palisade? No. I think Molly and then went to the toilet, got back into bed. Some fall of the clock. It kind of went really quick. Okay. Something’s definitely happening. And I was still at home at this point.
I was still at home, so it was on my own. I put the monitors on, man just said it was the boy, the induction. I said, no labor. They said no. Was that okay? Twice before. So I said, Dr. Thing, my birth partner, and he could come in to help comfort me. Thank you very much.
So my partner, he came in at half eight in the morning. Don’t ask me what I was doing. I only live 15 minutes away from the hospital. He called me up to drop over to Molly parents’ house so that they could take them to school before coming in. So that’s probably what he was doing. So then he, he could let the hospital stay on the assessment ward.
I said, can I get a bath? I said, yeah, we had followed. We actually had follows you like, do you want to tie having a bath? And seeing if that helps relax, you fallen. And we want to put back on the money first. Okay. I stayed in the bath. I was falling asleep. We’re mobile.
Weekly mottoes really, really helped. Yeah. While I was in the bath. And then they said, can we monitor here? I said, kind of get saw it first from getting out of the bath at 10 o’clock. The other birthing people opposite may they were, had their visitors. So it got back on the bag. And I put my dramas on by<inaudible> and said,
can we monitor your sad? Just because I was so comfortable at 20 past 10 and they were log. Okay. That’s okay. So when are you in, in between one and 10? What your pain? I was like, So anyway, and I’ll just wait and the way, you know, it’s getting the midwife. Oh. And the babies come in or you say,
Hey, let’s get the meatballs. And when they came back ahead of crimes and this was a 10 while she was born at 10, 4, 10. So it’s only really five hours since you could have woke up and thought, this is something that’s happening. The pest away was still in storage. So while ahead was fair to try and get it out. But yeah.
And then while I would do my overdue in there, she came at, I didn’t even know what she was. Cause we, I don’t find, I said she was born in yeah. As a first shoulders. Yeah. That’s so interesting because so many people think that happens so much earlier and it can’t do. Of course we always imagined in the movies,
it’s always the first thing. Isn’t it? That big Pope and gosh, but yeah, later on, maybe not quite as early as birth With most first diaper Walters. And even when, cause they went and spoke it and they went, oh, we’re going to need a bigger one. And my mom was like, oh, that was fine. And then with Maui,
because I was transferred in and then the one she went, oh, of course it will. And then Molly and then I’ll eat. I was born in hers and then same with Jacob. I had a water bath at home with him and he’s waters release literally just as he was born as well as when. And I went, oh, was that You gave birth to her or were you just standing beside the bed then you,
And that’s why I didn’t want him to monitor. Like I said, I was not comfortable at all, but I’d had no pain relief. It was just literally you just breathe in for it. And that’s when it was all called to go into my outlook. So I’m not, I don’t want any one such murder Because I 10 science bag. Right.
Redmond. Listen, I’ve been given breast before that since, but you were monitoring that. It wasn’t like you were panicking. Like it was quite monitorable After I got all the science about what she, when she was trying to monitor me at 20 past 10 and it was saying, I mean, you know, in IBM she was just being, she was saying,
I didn’t want to give birth on the assessment board because of the other birth in people in that visit as opposite. This was all done with people, give birth in supermarkets these days. And I was like pottery. Although one of the things I complained about it was that one, they didn’t listen to me and three because they weren’t listening to me. That pessary was somewhere.
Yeah. It sounds like you did an amazing job. I guessing to that, especially in that environment, you know, often we talk about the importance of being unobserved and feeling like we are a private space and you really, really didn’t have that issue. I mean, like those more, it’s like, there’s a carton, a thin Carson there, if you’re lucky.
And I know like some of that, it wasn’t comfortable obviously for you and you know, you, you didn’t complain didn’t you, but some of the things that happened. Yeah. I mean, when I gave birth, I didn’t even have the curtain across. And it was only when my birth, I went and got the mid wall and I saw that I had this chronic cut-ins the author birth and people’s curtains cross.
And, and it was a little late now, but yeah, so I did put in a complaint because I just didn’t feel I was treated. Right. Yeah. And it’s so important. Like when we talk about positive induction, a lot of that is about how we feel, whether we feel supported and respected and when you don’t feel cared for in that way,
like, it impacts your experience. And as a fourth trimester, like enter the fourth trimester and beyond it can impact us. So how did you feel like emotionally afterwards, like there must have been a lot of process and with Yeah. And there was so much shot. Yeah. Because I do have a free birth before and because, because it was so fast compared to<inaudible> I only remember being in labor.
Yeah. So, yeah. So it just, it was so clear and like I said, it was his fast and he missed her head Cronin. Yeah. But sustain over it as well. So that didn’t help in times of having to go home and then you’ll come back the next day I was able to go on the school the next day. I didn’t get out of the car.
You weren’t doing the skill, right? I definitely did not. But I did come out to when she was two days old, went out for dinner. So what helped you process? What helps you process that experience? Please talk with my midwife afterwards because yeah, she was brilliant. She also, she was in the hospital the day after I gave birth and I saw her and it was her who told me to put a complaint in yeah.
That the complaint helped. Does that make you feel like a bit more at peace with this actually seeing you want to make your voice heard don’t you to see like, this is what I experienced and this is Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt flat complaining, but then it was a duty of care And it was to help me. So even if,
you know, I’ll put that complaint in and I had, I wouldn’t apologize from the maternity ward, they asked me if I wanted to go in and talk to the board of the health care team or talk to the head of midwifery and the maternity ward. But I declined just because for them apologizing was enough for me. Yeah. I know it might not be enough for the people,
but it was for them to acknowledge that I wasn’t happy. So that was enough for me. But yeah, that was quite nice that they were willing to do more. If I wasn’t, if I didn’t fail it, it was enough. And Locke said journaling and they, they won’t program really, really helped me. Yeah. So after like journaling and the complaint and hypnotherapy like rewind,
how did you, how do you feel about it now when you look back on it? No, I’ll just say look better. Yeah. Look, I’ll just fail so positive about that. It was a positive induction, you know, all I did it almost out of when, against what, not totally against what I wanted or listened to me And did what I wanted.
And it was quite nice as well in my bath original bathroom, because you could have up to three birth partners. Then I wanted my mom because my mom had been there. But my overturn and also Molly is her first grandchild, But that didn’t happen. And it was just me. I’m a partner. And it was, he was that gray that only had him at my fault because he was that much of a support and look sad.
We’d done all our research together. We did hypnobirthing together that it was just amazing. Like just couldn’t have imagined anyone else, painter, Orca don’t think of wanting to anybody else there. So what did he do? That was so helpful. Tell us. Cause people would always on birth partners. I was say, well, what can I do? And then of course it’s not always about doing stuff.
Is it there? So what was, what was helpful? So, yeah, it was a lot of just him being there. He ran the format, he helped me into the bath. It kept topping up. So does cold. When you’re in there for an hour, He was holding my hand. He was told him in the Searchie years while I was in the bath.
But then like, because I was falling asleep, he said he could only time them by me being awake. And I was all those away. These all. Yeah. You’re like, you know, I’ll try to remember that love said, I’ll go in fourth, off into a zone. It helped me out the bath. What the towel, how it get me back in my pajamas helped me back into bed.
He got me drinks got me snaps. Put my phone on charge. Asked he was keeping families like up to date. Yes. Okay. To create a great chat, to keep them up to date with it sorted, the kids he’d log a grinder just in case after school care. He just doing everything, all them silly little things that you worry about when you’re in labor.
He just did them. Yeah. So you could concentrate on your job. Yeah. Because you do, when you’re in, you do think of like silly little things that you wouldn’t get usually worry about. But look, I remember, even after I’d had, and I was like, oh, it’s a picture of a pain mottos yesterday. It’s funny.
Yeah. Yeah. So in terms of like a positive breath or positive induction, like what does a positive, what has to be there to you for it to be positive? Yeah. I would definitely say do your research and consider what could happen if things don’t go to plan, definitely plan for the unexpected do, do not be afraid to ask questions and also do the education with your birth partner to build that confidence in what they should be doing and what you want them to be doing.
And also get them to advocate for we go. So we don’t want to ask the questions yourself, get them to do it like that. So important. But yeah, I think it was positive because I felt so in control and all we did lock said it was on my own terms where all we wanted to do, even though like I was in jail,
but that was more decisions being juiced. And we can’t control all of any birth, but it’s looking at where do you still have control? Where do you still have influence or the ability to make choices and make it yours? Cause that’s still your birth. Right? I think like induction that feels like almost we hand more control over it, but actually there still are a lot of things like when you can say,
well, no, I don’t have to declining that to say like I’m sleeping or I want to do it this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Monitoring me the Noey. No, you don’t need to do that now. Okay. And then when they said, oh, you need to be out of the Buffalo. No. Like if you want to monitor me,
they’ve got awards, postdoc close. So really wanted to check. But yeah. So nobody comes affect me at half knowledge After you’ve processed your breath. And you’re feeling like about us. That was your one site. Did that inspire you then to go on and teach hypnobirthing or to learn more about hypnobirthing? Yeah. I mean, like I touched upon it with her birth anyway,
But didn’t look too much in Tibet, but then afterwards and feeling positive and especially with journaling and looking at the so step. Yeah. It definitely ponder led me to that path of hypnobirthing because he, my birth isn’t just for birth and pregnancy locker do fall into some of the techniques can see you through Everything. And also it’s, It’s just the different array of techniques that make you feel in control and confident in other situations as well.
Yeah. So I think that’s why as well, I like that. That’s why I looked at hypnobirthing and I looked at all different complaints before trying, and then I’ll try and with they combat school and since then I’ve like trying with other birthing companies. But yeah, I would definitely say having my third, it definitely kinda led me along the Hypnoparenting path.
Nice. In terms of, for anyone listening, who’s going for an adduction tomorrow, what words would you have for them? Oh, I’d say stay positive, know your own mind and do what you wanted to And ask questions. Yes. Ask questions. That’s impossible to see that too many times because yes. It’s so important to ask questions and have the confidence ask questions and remember you can ask questions.
Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, Yes. Oh, that’s brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing with us. Leon Was Thank you again, Leanne, for sharing your breast story with us today, a really appreciate everyone who takes time to share with us here. I want to end with three things that stood out for me in this conversation. Presi,
as we mentioned, many times ask all of the questions is your birth and you have the right to be able to ask everything and to hear those answers. Secondly, it’s your body and your breath experience. You get to declare things. If that’s not what you want to do, of course you may feel that you want more monitoring and stay at, and that’s your choice as well.
Thirdly, I think is important to appreciate the impact of feeling listened to and respected as well as the impact of not being listened to and respected, nor that you can complain. If you feel you are not treated fairly and that you can ask for a different midwife, if you feel that you’re being treated unfairly in that birth experience, finally, a quick extra,
sometimes it’s really beneficial to have some support and processing your breath. We hear people talk about birth trauma recovery, and of course hypnotherapy could help with that, but you don’t have to have had a traumatic birth to ask for support. If you feel that you’re struggling to process your birth or would like to talk through and reflect on your experience, do get in touch with me jade@positiveinduction.com.
Thanks for listening. Head over to the show notes for this episode@positiveinduction.com forward slash episode eight, where you’ll find links to additional resources, including information on baby’s movements, a link to Leon’s page and information on hypnotherapy to help you process breath. And of course the positive induction course, a hypnobirthing course, especially created for induction. Thanks again for being here with us today and do get in touch.
If you have any questions you can email me. As I said jade@positiveinduction.com or find me at Instagram at positive induction, I hope you have a lovely week.