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In this episode I’m joined by Shona, to talk about her two very different positive induction birth stories, both from England.

One due to concerns for growth and the second due to pre-eclampsia. This is a great illustration of how positive induction experiences can look very different.

So get as comfy you can and enjoy.

You can find the Hypnobirthing for Induction Course here: https://positiveinduction.com/course/

 


Transcript – Note these are automatically generated and may contain some errors.

 

In this episode, I’m joined by Shauna to talk about her two very different positive induction birth stories, both from England, one due to concern for growth. And the second due to preeclampsia, this is a great illustration of high, positive induction experiences can look very different. So get comfy as you can and enjoy You’re listening to the positive induction podcast, a podcast for those who have chosen to have an induction of labor or for those entrusted and how they can make induction a more positive experience.

I’m your host, Jeff Gordon, clinical hypnotherapist hypnobirthing teacher, and positive induction court. As always, I want to remain to you positive birth means different things to different people, whether that’s feeling in control, respected, informed, or been able to connect with those primal instincts. It does not mean perfect. My aim here is to bring you tips, inspiration and real life experiences.

So let’s get started. So thanks to Shauna for joining us today is talk about two inductions. The squeak, when people have two, it’s like two for one, What a bargain That’s great. Two positive induction stories as well for the price of one. Tell me then you, your first BV, your plan wasn’t initially to have an induction. Was it?

No, it wasn’t. It wasn’t, you know, face baby. I think that was it a little bit more idealistic and did want this sort of spontaneous birth. And I wanted my waters to release while I was out for a nice walk and all of that. I did have very different ideas, but it wasn’t meant to be, you know, and we had to go along to different routes.

Why did you choose to have that induction that first time then I was measuring small, you know, well, lovely midwives with that tape measure. And my bump was a little bit on the smaller side. I got sort of monitored for a couple of weeks and, and baby hadn’t quite grown to the point that they would like, and it was more so her legs and her,

to me that went growing at the rate and her head was so far engaged. He couldn’t get that sort of measurement. So now we kind of went on the basis that just in case that things weren’t right. It might be a good time to induce. I was 37 weeks at the time. So I did feel a little bit like, oh, she’s got a little bit of growing to do,

but I was happy to go along with it. It didn’t feel like a force thing. Although we were actually completing the move on our house that same day. And we, we, we missed out a move moving house. Oh, did you say you gonna move in house and having a baby? Yeah. Our parents moved us into a new house cause we were in the hospital And we moved,

but somebody else did it for us. That’s ideal actually. So you were 37 weeks when you had your induction? Yeah. So 37 plus four on the day. I think it might be possibly be in the day I had her, but yes, I was still kind of in the 37 week margin. And I know you said that you felt like,

oh, this is, you know, just in case, but how easy was that decision to make? Did you get a lot of support with it? It’s, you know, looking back and it’s always the same with hindsight, isn’t it? I probably didn’t ask enough questions and you know, it was first baby and I did feel a little bit nervous by it all.

And I think you always kind of look back and think, I wish I had just asked this or asked for extra monitoring or something like that. But at the time it didn’t feel pushed into it, but it was more so after the event where I thought, oh, okay. Maybe it was a little bit more of a pushed, forced upon thing,

but they’ve got to do what they feel right as well. And you know, I made the decision myself with my husband and we were fine at the time, but it was okay. And did you have time to make that decision then? Not particularly. You don’t get not very long. And I think we kind of just got told that was happening then.

So because of the house move, actually, she said the midwife mentioned that she wanted us to come back the next morning and I said, could we possibly delay it by 24 hours? Because we went with the house and she said, no. And you know, I don’t know how urgent things were. I didn’t particularly feel like there was a threat to my baby’s health,

but it certainly wasn’t an option to extend it by any period of time You had basically overnight to right. Super clear. What did you do that night? I packed some boxes. It’s a strange thing to change. Well, I’m with my waters to go over to like suddenly like, okay, tomorrow what’s happening and move the case. So you pack some boxes.

Yeah. I bet it will be packed some boxes. And I went and bought a tens machine, which I hadn’t already, I hadn’t got yet, but do you know what? I actually rang my hypnobirthing instructor and we chatted through induction. She was actually next midwife and with lots and lots of experience. So we talked about the whole process, which really helped me.

I needed to understand on a step-by-step basis what was going to happen. And that was massive. And I actually read a few positive and direction stories and watched them on YouTube. I just did everything I could to prepare myself mentally and left the boxes to my husband. Yes. Good prioritizing. I am. So you’re done hypnobirthing junior pregnancy then I had,

yes. I had found a hypnobirthing course. I did that when I was about 30 weeks. Yeah. In practice, you know, for the remainder of, you know, looking back, it was only seven weeks, but I feel like it was a long part of my pregnancy that I listened to those MP3. Isn’t it? I sort of really got it in the mind,

but yeah, we we’d be in a lovely hypnobirthing course when I was pregnant. Okay. And so then you went in the next day and tell me like, what was the first day? So we didn’t get until 9:00 PM. I think, because, you know, the way things are the maternity system there, we didn’t really have enough room for us.

So it was a very bizarre thing going in quite late because I was like, okay, now I just want to go straight to sleep. But I was given the pessaries and it was from Thursday night until the Saturday morning before anything happened. It was a long way. There was lots of ball bouncing and wintering round the grounds of the hospital before anything happened at all.

You know, she was fairly well, well snug in there. What else did you do? Did you feel to have some entertainment in that table? Did you take any movies? No. Do you know what, what we did? We had the iPads, I think the house, how smooth was fairly kept us occupied while we actually had the phone solicitors and estate agents and do loads of random necessary things.

It was also the, I feel like one of the first black Fridays that we had in the UK, it was just getting built up. So we bought a load of electronics, but then you have, You know, we kind of found out, filled our time with that. But as things started to get on a third, do you know what I really need to listen more to some of my MP3s,

I watched watched some really, really looking back now really silly YouTube videos, but just things that made me laugh, you know, boosted the oxytocin as much as I can, if could add the endorphin levels or just watch some daft things on YouTube just found, I found walk-in was actually really quite good. And a lot of ballgowns said, yep. So when you live back at that time,

is it quite a positive team? Yeah, I think so. It did feel like we were waiting around inpatient patients, but I would much prefer that than to feel the pressure of, you know, let’s try and hurry things along. We were given our own space and our own time and trying to let things take its natural course. Yeah. And so then the things started,

you have that moment of, Ooh, is that something Still nothing. So it w it wasn’t until the point that these pessaries started to work and my cervix was dilated to about two centimeters and midwife kind of came in and said, okay, we’re going to really see what is now a bit unexpected, but all right. You know, again, we kind of go along with it by what is released with a gush,

you know, it was, Yeah, it was, it was, and it was such a release of pressure as well. I hadn’t realized it built up over time and I was like, oh my God, that feels great. So the depression went, but then straight away kind of felt myself just straight away and thought, okay, let’s get back tens machine out of its box and get in,

put it to you. So it was kind of instant after the release of the waters that felt things were happening now. And didn’t go for any more walks at that point. We were well and truly in our room at that stage. And how did you find those surges? The tents when she help? Oh my God. Yeah. I don’t think I could ever be been without much energy for both.

It’s actually, it was amazing. And it, it was a proper maternity one with the boost button on, which I found was really, really helpful. And yeah, Mike, do you know what I didn’t? I think it could, because I didn’t know what to expect. You know, it was first baby and I was kind of like being brave.

I was like, okay, this is fine. You know, lots of period type crumps and feeling a bit achy. And, but I, I had my MP3s and I had headphones in and I felt like I was almost falling asleep in between the surges. They were kind of, I was so chilled out and I had some essential oils on a handkerchief and that was kind of sniffing those just chilling.

And it did keep demanding that my husband turned the air con up or down, like every five or 10 minutes, you know, it was either too hot or too cold, but I was very relaxed. So it was kind of dream and different, weird dreams would be about the house, But yeah, it was all, it was all pretty chilled.

And, you know, I think a lot of it is a credit to the fact that our midwife led unit was quite busy on the day and we didn’t get checked on at all. Really. There wasn’t people in and out of the room. We were just left to get on with it. And I think it was about four hours before anybody else popped their head in,

after the release of the waters we were expecting to come back into. And we just never seen anybody. She came in after four hours and she said, you probably not that far on, but we will check with them. She said, well, have a check. She’s a little bit annoyed with me. I think because they had didn’t have any staff.

It was actually the am ward manager that came in to check me. So did you want to be checked in to see how you Were? I was ready. I was very ready to know where I was at. So I was like, come on, it’s been quite awhile now. Quite interesting. Always to hear. Cause sometimes people don’t want to know what on the table is.

People are like, yeah, tell me, like, I want to know something about, Tell me now where I am. Yeah. I think my husband was like, please check. Just so I know. So yeah, no, I was happy. Although it was, you know, it was a difficult thing to tell you, I repositioned the bed and then she wanted me flat on my back and I had the tens machine on and I was like,

well, these are on my back. And it was a little bit uncomfortable, but her face changed when she realized I was seven centimeters and she hadn’t heard a peep out of me before that time. So it was a little bit like, okay, she was now my best friend and we were over the moon, you know, it managed to get to that point with the tens machine.

And I was like, okay, this might not be as bad as I was expecting. Quite good. Yeah. So at that point, actually she said that the room with the Pulin was free and because I’d get into seventh, sent me as I didn’t eat any more induction methods as part of my best. And I was able to use the pool for the remainder of the birth.

So That’s amazing. So often both then or conduction pills, no longer an option, which can’t be the case in many places. It’s always great. When you hear that some places are more accommodating or realize that, you know, you’re progressing now, we’re not going to meet whoever. Then we can look at the pill. So nice. It helps you have a breath.

More like what you plan. Yeah, it was, that was exactly what I wanted to definitely want you to use the pool. And I told them that when I went in as well, I think it’s so important to make, make it known. They’re not mind readers, are they? So yes, it was like, you know, I know I’m here being introduced,

but if there is a small, tiny chance of me being able to use the pool, then please let it happen. So in the way of accommodate and yeah. How does it feel when you got into that pill? Oh, it’s so incredible. You just can’t give it the credit. It needs. How lovely being in the water is when you’re in labor.

I was good enough to take my tens machine off. Yeah. Just clean water And the ideal. So, no, it was a bit sad about that, but it was swiftly replaced with some gas and air, which I was happy to use. It was kind of on my best plan originally that I would give it a go. I was worried it was going to make me feel sick.

I mean, I think some people do kind of think that might happen, but again, it kind of just put me in this kind of dreamy stage. It’s just chilled out a bit. And I think that, you know, it could be the fact that we have the ward manager of being a main midwife, but she just kept quiet. She didn’t say what she was actually behind me the whole time and that I didn’t see our face to face my husband.

And I asked, I had asked her if I was doing it right. She didn’t tell me there was no encouragement, which I know it’s sometimes it’s a personal choice. Isn’t it either. I want a little bit of Gina, but you just want silence. And I was like, is this okay? Am I doing it right? But she had been doing the thumbs up to my husband every point.

And I was like, oh, well I didn’t know that. So yeah, it was, it was really lovely at, at that stage. And I was, I think I cracked a few jokes as well, so Yeah, I think that’s nice to remember as well that there’s the Sturgis now there’s a bit in between, right? It is the sorry.

Yeah, yeah. Yes. And the bit in between, I was able to be like, can I have a drink and can you change the music? Or, you know, we just had that little bit of a chat and then as soon as it came again, they all just like deadly quiet and let me get on with it and focus on it.

And so, and you know, there’s something about those surges come in. That makes you feel like that the most important person in the room. Cause everyone just goes, tick, follows your lead. And they’re just like, okay, she’s concentrating now. We’ll all be quiet. And, and they watched Nice. And so did you have your baby in the pool?

Yes. So she arrived early hours of Sunday morning. So it was a long process from Moscow in, in, in ice. So she arrived on the Sunday morning and there was a student midwife in with us and she kind of like helped to grab her and move her up. She was probably poor brought out the water a little too quickly. Like after now watching a few more birth videos of the pool,

they’re all kind of slowly brought out and Lois was kind of like thrown into the air a little bit. I think it was either myself or the student midwife panicked a little bit, but yeah, she was in the pool and we stayed in there for about 15 minutes and she didn’t make a noise at all. She didn’t cry or just say anything mean she was just quiet.

It was probably the last time she was quiet And we just were in awe, which has stayed in the pool for, for a good while, especially sort of delayed cord clamping. And it was lovely. It was just very nice until, I suppose when you’d originally created your breast plan and saw that the different options, like your kind of ideal, if you like,

you know what your perfect breath you’re ideally the kind of, oh, these are the kind of things that are on my preference list. You probably got quite a lot of them. Yeah. Anyway, and often we hear induction where like, oh, okay, breath fly. Like, so are the window actually like a lot of your preferences, still students That came together like water breath even.

And so it’s nice to hear that induction doesn’t always mean it’s going to be completely different. No, definitely not. And I think part of me was a little bit of that thing in when I first heard induction, I thought all that, everything I wanted gone and yeah, it just turned around lovely. And you know, I still managed to have this incredible,

amazing positive bath and it doesn’t matter that it started off by being induced. It was just one of those things. It’s just part of our process. Yeah. And then the question people are always wondering was growth. Was she similar to what was predicted? Yes, but she was 37 weeks. So she was 37 plus four or whatever. And she was born five pounds,

nine ounces. So she was small, but I, again, would she have grown in all right size? Had she been in there until 40 weeks or longer? Who knows? You’ll know. She’s Also really petite anyway, as a child and compared to her friends she’s little and I think she just meant to be small. Yeah. Yeah. Everything worked out well.

So really In terms of like your breath partner, like how is he able to support you during that breath? I think he took my lead a lot and just kind of watched and was around and dead exactly. As he was told at every moment. And he did, you know, he changed the temperature and he changed the music. And I could see the look of concern on his face.

Cause we did, obviously we did our Hypnoparenting calls together, but he was very much of that sort of what’s this crazy Hypnoparenting thing all about, yes. He couldn’t get his head into it, but he knew it was going to help me. I think our course could have possibly concentrate a little bit more on how a birth partner could help. It was something that maybe it lacked because he just did what he felt was right.

Rather than having a specific set of things he could have done for example, but you know, it was great. And he, he was there, he was in front of me when I needed him to be rather than just scared and in the corner. Yes. Brilliant. And yeah, that’s the thing giving partners caught the confidence to know that the can be useful society page,

particularly male birth partner says, oh, you know, feet in the corner or sitting there not knowing what to do. And it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s nice that he was able to have the confidence to be helpful. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he really was helpful and he was speaking to the midwives for me and in doing that.

Yeah, of course it’s known as doing stuff, but just being present and being like there with you, She told me her hand sometimes that’s all you need. Yeah. So you tried your first baby and then you were pregnant again. What was your plan with the second time? Yeah, so plans second time it changed slightly because by this point, you know,

I was in a hypnobirthing world a little bit more myself and I was very much more aware of asking questions and sticking to what I wanted and things like that. So I kind of thought I would rather not be in just this time. You know, this is, I knew I was only going to have two babies and I thought, this is my opportunity to have that spontaneous birth.

I wasn’t meant to be What chief. So with this one, so actually after I, I had Louis my first, I was in hospital a week afterwards with high blood pressure. So they kind of put that down to preeclampsia and that it might be still hanging around, even though it was post-birth and I was kind of monitored quite a lot. So it was in my notes and I was already kind of being looked at for preeclampsia symptoms from the off,

with my second, I was taking aspirin as well as advised by a consultant. So blood pressure and protein in the urine was something that was talked about at every midwife appointment. And I do almost feel that there was a little bit of white coat syndrome with me. You know, my blood pressure was always high when I went to the midwife, but we’d kind of got some blood pressure cuffs at home,

like sort of bought from the pharmacy. And I was always fine when I was at home. And so, yeah, that kind of changed when I was about 34 weeks with my second. And there was just too many instances of, of protein in the urine and if the blood pressure being high. So I was in a little bit more regular to be checked.

And at about the 7 30, 8 weeks I was taken in for a three hour monitor instant to our image, my flight unit. And try as I might, I just couldn’t get my blood pressure, but you know, you sat in the room and you’re like, It’s such a hard situation, isn’t it? Cause it’s stressful, It’s stressful. And You’re thinking,

oh, I’ve still got more stress on blood pressure is going to rise. They’re like, oh, that’s my son. I’m more stuck. And you’re like, oh, And you can hear the machine. Beep it. And next year, and I was listening to my MP3s and I was like, calm down, calm down. And you know, I didn’t calm down.

Yes. So then you had to make a decision about induction again Again. Yeah. So I was in there on my own. My husband was at work and by this point we had a two-year-old as well. So grandparents and things are involved, you know, you always kind of think, oh, I would love three hours to myself, got a two year old.

But on this occasion there was a bit more good. And you know, I had, there was signs and symptoms, things were point into preeclampsia. My swelling was starting to go a little bit crazy. The, my lips were incredible. The power it’s the best, but you know, every, every midwife appointment, she said, you look a little bit puffy.

And I kind of felt like I had a bit of a cold, I felt a bit sinusy. So I knew him. I knew deep down it was there. So I was on my own for this blood pressure monitoring. And I got taken into a room and the consultant came in and said, you know, ideally we’d like to keep you an overnight.

And then tomorrow morning we were like doing GCs as well. And it kind of just went, oh, but you know, I’d had such a good birth as low as I thought. Right. Okay. It’s fine. It could go the same way. You never know. So I kept, kept a positive mind yeah. To skid and being your second breath and having had the pause of breath first time they,

does that give you confidence or did you feel like you had to do the same again or, you know, did your crasher, or does he feel confident about it? I was very, I was very confident about it. I did, I knew I could do it and knew my body could do it. My baby could do it. I was not really worried about that.

I did feel almost a little bit of pressure to have another good birth because it was so lovely the last time. And I was like, I just want to replicate that. I just want to be, you know, in the pool again and do all of the same things so that it almost just added a bit of pressure rather than confidence. If anything else,

I was just kind of thinking if I could just do that, if we could just replicate everything, then it will be great. And did you replicate everything? No. No, we didn’t. Same. Are they? No, it’s not. So we were interested about 9:00 AM the next morning. And then actually my midwife is lovely and she was really interested in hypnobirthing and she wanted to do as much as possible to kind of create that lovely environment for us.

But yes, baby number two was just a little bit more awkward. So my cervix is already two centimeters dilated, probably just because, you know, I’d already had a baby. I don’t think it ever really goes back so straight away. She said, you know, you said it says two centimeters, but in my head at that point, I thought if my service is already two centimeters dilated,

just that mean I was already on my way and did I need this sort of intervention, but you know, it was happening. And she was able to release my board as, but no big gush, no release of pressure. It was a tiny little trickle of water. In fact, we weren’t even showed work. So I spent a lot of time again,

walking around and going up the stairs, sideways courage. And you know, it didn’t really feel like my wall is, but releasing it all, she kind of kept coming back in and having a little look. And it was a lot more involvement from the midwife this time, see where it is busy, so round. So she was in and out of the room a little bit more.

It was also ended, you know, I think this may make a difference. It was also through the day and there was also, it seemed to be a lot more going on and the sun was shining through. It just didn’t seem as chill as when it was just Lois. And it was nice and dark and quiet. They Were probably concerned about you as well as baby this Time.

Yeah. So with them was constant blood pressure monitoring going on. Like, I fact, I think the cloth just stayed on my arm the whole time and I think she was almost a little bit too cautious knowing that I wanted a nice calm birth. She was like, oh, we know we do need to monitor the baby a little bit. Would that be all right?

And you know, I’m fairly chill. I was like, yeah, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it. But she was really worried that because I was going to be on bond monitoring for a little while that it would ruin everything. So, you know, we spent a bit of time with wireless monitoring, which didn’t really work. Absolutely. The signal just kept dropping out and the machine beeping because of that,

it was more distracting than an yeah. So we put a clip on the baby’s head instead, which was just a bit bizarre, a little bit uncomfortable, but I think my baby was doing twists around inside. So this clip was spinning and she kept again, it kept losing connection. So it was a little bit fluffy things, the word for it.

So yeah, it was a lot of, a bit more around going on and we were then given a time limit before Sentosa nun was brought into it, which weighed very heavy on my mind. I had already asked about using the pool and I was told that it was probably not a great idea just with the preeclampsia symptoms being there. They didn’t want any sort of seizures or anything happening in the pool.

So that was out with the window a little bit, unfortunately. So, but yeah, I think this the, of a time limit for having the Sentosa naan bread was a massive thing for me. And fortunately my midwife was lovely and I asked her for a little bit longer and she said she couldn’t, she couldn’t wait any longer, but it did take our whole hour to bring the equipment into the room.

It was very sneaky of her and very nice about, yeah. So Were you having searches at this point? Not really. No. There was some niggles and I did put the tens machine on and we had my husband sort of massage my back as best he could. It was nothing, nothing that I was right. Would write home about those. So I knew it wasn’t imminent Most of the scene.

No it wasn’t. Yeah. So Santos on went and about three o’clock and again, we kind of moved positions just so I could be closer. So by this point it was definite band monitoring and blood pressure, cuff and clips still on the baby’s head. And my tens machine, there was a lot of wires. There’s a lot of wires and cables and machines.

So we changed the bed around because those beds are just amazing. And, you know, we changed it. It was like a transformer and I was kind of sat over the back of it. Like it was almost like a chat and I was using it Alina Nova and yeah, time just seems to disappear from you when you’re in labor. Doesn’t it?

Because all of a sudden the next thing I know, it was kind of a couple of hours along the line, but I think the thing that everyone’s concerned about or asks about with Santos known as the, the irregular patterns of your surges. And I did certainly feel that some of them were lasted about 30 seconds and then the next one was a minute and there was no great break in between.

There was certain, you know, jokes cracked this time round. It’s interesting because I’m going to respond differently. Of course. But yeah. So just to hear that, so your surgeries did start basically with the More or less straight away. Yeah, the dad, but still just talking about tens machine on. And I kind of used my breathe and more,

so this time than I did with Lois, I think I was a lot more focused on my breathing. Just have my head in the back of the chair and it just kept, But yeah, there was a point when there was just the midwife and she didn’t have, there was another student as well with a student had gone out of the room, just the midwife.

And she said to me, do you feel like you get pushed? And it was actually, it hadn’t even entered my head. Cause I thought, well, I’ve only been going a couple of hours. Like, surely I’m not there yet. And as soon as she said it, I thought, oh yeah, actually that would be really nice. That would be,

that will be a good feeling to push. So, and as soon as I did, she had to shout the student back in, she was putting her apron on. She could see the baby’s head. So I think she was, maybe it was just probably waited. She was like, come on, do it. So it was quite quick. So from drip going in to actual birth was three and a half hours.

So it was pretty intense. I think when I was, when she was crowning, I thought I should have asked for some gas and air, but I’m guessing it’s too late. Yeah. And, and she told me that she could see the baby’s nose and in my head, I thought there’s so much more face to go. I can just see,

I know, but you know, it was, she was out, she shot out like a bat out of help. And, and she’s exactly like that as a child. So the most opposite birth appropriate you’d have asked for it, but you know, it was fine as well. It was fine. Lois, his birth was quiet and calm and sort of chilled out Nell’s birth was a bit more raw and wild.

And I shouted, which I just never did with Lois. You know, different part of me came out for that birth and both were incredible. Both were really positive for just their very own different stories. Yes, that’s great. And I think, yeah, it’s a really interesting point because positive breasts can mean so many different things and like your both stories show that positive breasts can look very different.

And so positive. Often people think that long birth, if you said, oh yeah, I was, I waited from induction and it was what was it? Five days. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine, oh my goodness. Most of your labor for that length of time. And if you’re In labor for five days, But actually there’s a lot of the time is hanging around waiting,

waiting. And then when it builds up slowly and it’s happening, there’s not always a bad thing right. In that oh, swell. Like obviously it can be quick as well. Yeah. And I think it, you can’t take for granted what your body’s going to do either. So it could be quick one time in a bit. So, or the next,

or you just, you just really don’t know. You have to. I think that’s why you’ve got to go with the flow a little bit and not expect it’s going to be any particular way. It’s just going to be, It really is. Yeah. What was it about your breast and me that positive? Both of them. So your breasts, when you let that With Louis,

especially, you know, it was, it was calm. It was relaxed. It was quiet. It was chill. It was the kind of Nobel, if you will, or I don’t think there’s any such thing, but that was the kind of thing I was looking for. But with nails, I felt like I was a different person and it was,

it was positive because that kind of primal side came out and it was able to just, you know, whatever, shout my baby out a little bit. And I foot both of them, it’s the feeling afterwards. It’s feeling like no matter which way it went, it was still kind of within my control and I didn’t feel pushed into doing anything or that things hadn’t gone in a certain way.

I wasn’t disappointed by the either of them. And it was just proud of myself, you know, both times. And I actually just birth the baby. Brilliant. Great. So just to finish off, tell me if there was someone who was confronting duction more or any other tips or suggestions you would like to share with them? Oh goodness. Well,

good luck. So that is the case. Do you know, just try and stay as relaxed as possible. We, we talk about how much our brains and our bodies are linked. And if your mind is going a hundred miles an hour about different scenarios and circumstances, then your body is certainly going to react to that. So just stay calm, stay relaxed.

Things might go differently than what you expect, but it’s just going to be your own birth story. And as long as you and your baby or feeling amazing afterwards, then exactly what you want. But no, I think just trying to do it your own way would be great, but not always necessary. Is it? Yeah, definitely. Oh, that’s brilliant.

Thanks so much for sharing with us. It’s been great. Oh my pleasure. It was lovely. It’s lovely to talk about birds. Remember my babies? No problem. Thank you so much again to Shawna. It was a pleasure to talk to you today. Here are a couple of points that stood out for me that I want to highlight. Firstly,

I love that Shauna shared her experience of early labor. Although it was a long time. She wasn’t lying in bed waiting. They went for walks, used the ball, bought things in the seal and watch videos to boost oxytocin. I think this is a really nice remainder to challenge our views of how we feel LIBOR should look. Secondly, I love the way Shauna contrasted,

both of her breasts, the quiet and calm first breath, and then the louder more primal. Second birth is a good reminder that there’s no one way to give birth. There’s no one we brush it lick. And it’s about having the breath that you and BB need and feeling supported. And in control. Finally, I want to mention hypnobirthing a topic that came up lots in this podcast and does come up often in the podcast.

Generally, it really is such an advantage to have, if you’re planning an induction, we can’t guarantee you a positive experience. No one can, but it’s about stacking the odds in your favor and being as prepared as you can be before starting your induction. So remember to check out our hypnobirthing for induction course@positiveinduction.com forward slash course, or you can head to the show notes for the link and more information.

Thanks for listening. As I say, head over to the show notes for this episode, that positive induction.com forward slash episode six, where you’ll find links to additional resources. And of course the link to the positive induction course. Thanks again for being here with us today and do get in touch. If you have any questions, you can email me jade@positiveinduction.com.

I hope you have a lovely week.